medaille ou jeton

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Bonjour a tous

Pouvez vous m'identifier et estimer cette piece en argent (medaille ou jeton car il n'y a de date)

merci

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médaille de louis 2 de bavière

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merci de votre reponse connaissez sa valeur

[ALM]

bonjour

préciser nom du graveur poids et diamètre

si elle est au module du thaler estimation 200 à 300 euros

moins si plus petite

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inspiré d'un thaler plus ancien (1775)

PATRONA - BAVARIAE (Patronne de la Bavière). La Vierge nimbée et couronnée, trônant dans les nuées posées sur un croissant, tenant un globe crucigère et l'enfant Jésus.

http://www.cgb.fr/monnaies/vso/v07/v070206.html

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[ALM]

Voilà qui confirme que le thaler de 1775 a inspiré plusieurs médailles au type PATRONA BAVARIAE

Une autre en bronze :

2188. Germany, Bavaria. Trial Strike of Bishop's Medal, ca. 1860. "Episcopus August Carolus Franciscus" around bishop's head over two elaborate shields / Mary holding Jesus in clouds. The reverse is unfinished, and the legend has not yet been added. Otherwise the reverse is similar to the motif of 18th century Bavarian coins (KM-234). That would mean the missing legend is "Patrona Bavariae" Probably very rare. 28 mm, bronze. Pretty medal. Toned Red Unc. $35.00-50.00+

http://www.exonumia.com/sale11/allb.htm

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merci de votre réponse, le diamètre est de 33 mm, le graveur: e.voigt, mais pour le poids je n'ai pas de balance de précision. A+ merci

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Carl Friedrich Voigt (b Berlin, 6 Oct 1800; d Trieste, 13 Oct 1874). German medallist and gem-engraver. He trained as an engraver in Berlin with the founder and engraver Friedrich Vollgold (b c. 1790) and also with the medallist Leonhard Posch. From 1820 to 1825 he worked at the minting works of Gottfried Bernhard Loos (1773-1843) in Berlin. He then travelled to London, where he worked at the Royal Mint under Benedetto Pistrucci, and from there via Paris and Milan to Rome, where his career was furthered by Bertel Thorvaldsen. From 1830 onwards he worked as chief medallist at the Royal Mint in Munich, an office that he held until he moved once again to Rome in 1857. Voigt was a very prolific engraver and his work is among the best of the 19th century. Among the Bavarian coins, special mention should be made of the series of Geschichtstaler (historical thalers) showing the head of Ludwig I of Bavaria on the obverse of every coin and some important event from Bavarian history on the reverse. In Rome Voigt cut several dies for the Papal Mint. His numerous portrait medals reflect his contacts with the ruling houses of Germany, as well as with major artists of his day, such as Thorvaldsen, Peter Cornelius, Ludwig von Schwanthaler and Jakob Rauch. The models for his medals, executed in wax, are in the Accademia Nazionale di S Luca in Rome.

http://www.answers.com/topic/carl-friedrich-voigt-2